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Well... eh.

Very, very interesting. Thought-provoking.

Was great when it was on TV...still is now. : )

Amazing video!

Yes, religion sucks. But so does plain close minded science.

I think its sad he didn't interview any christian apologists on the issues adressed. I also disagree with his describtion of faith as believing dispite evidence. Its also kinda ironic that a someone who says they stand for reason would start using slippery-slope and other false arguments. The whole title the root of all evil is moronic to the point that I start to doubt Richard Dawkins credibility.

I would'nt say relgion is root of all evil but it is a big part of it!!!

Ofcourse religion is the root of all evil, religion in a man made thing, and mankind is the only source of wrongdoing and any of the planets problems. Think of anything that is bad about life, the earth or anything on the earth and it can be traced back to mankind either directly or indirectly. Tell me i'm wrong.....

It is interesting that Christianity describes as evil when education, medicin and democracy comes out of Christian believers life. Blackpainting Christianaity is those who only read half of our history.

Ofcourse religion is the root of all evil, religion in a man made thing, and mankind is the only source of wrongdoing and any of the planets problems. Think of anything that is bad about life, the earth or anything on the earth and it can be traced back to mankind either directly or indirectly. Tell me i'm wrong.....

This is a great scarecrow argument, portray what you think about someone instead of what they actually believe. His definition of faith is one that is not one that many people who embrace faith would agree with. It is a definition that begins with an assumption of no God. This is evidence that we all are capable of fearing what we don't understand, even scientists.

Excellent! I agree with everything that is said in this video. But i think that everyone has a right to express their own religion as long as it does not intrude on human rights.

It's true that some religious extremists become violent, but the same can not be said for ALL of them. Imagine how many people would go crazy and become mass killers if they did not have something to believe in? I am agnostic, but I think religion needs to exist!!

Not everyone has the ability to make their own morals and act based on those morals. Also, religion is good to bring people together. The only problem with religion is unacceptance. Unacceptance is the root of all evil, not religion.

It's true that some religious extremists become violent, but the same can not be said for ALL of them. Imagine how many people would go crazy and become mass killers if they did not have something to believe in? I am agnostic, but I think religion needs to exist!!

Religion isn't the only evil. it would be more accurate to say that "faith" in anything without evidence is. Many people "believe" in their nation, their political party, and sometimes even their ethnicity as strongly as their religion - without regard to evidence or careful reason. And these sorts of faith-based reasonless beliefs have led to the greatest evils in history. Most people fear letting go of these long-held beliefs that they learned from their parents - even when the beliefs would fall down easily when faced with a little evidence. as an example, before the mid-20th-century in the US it was very common to believe black people were inferior to whites. there was no credible evidence for this, but this was a common belief shared by white society and passed from father to son.

Even if i am not religius i still belive religion is a good thing. too bad humans has to fuck it all up. I belive people who kill in the name of religion would have found a different excuse to kill if they didnt have religion...

Your'e kidding, right? Seems it is you who have only read half the history. The idea of Democracy comes out of the antic greece, and they werent believing in a christian God. Education is a Christian thing? Um, NO. School's been around much longer than that. And Medicine? You MUST be kidding. Sure, Modern Medicin and education is a product from a higher civilisation that never been around before, but it is not because of christianity. Remember that it was the Church that hunted down people who said the world was round.

Finaly,someone is macking some sence ,this is the future people,there will come the time when Alah,Mohamed,God,Jesus,Buda and all the oyher "creators" will be forgotten,and then,we can start properly evolving,only THEN we will be able to focus on more important things,licke cloning,improoving the human geen..etc

Very wise spoken by Ryli. Identification with different type of groups leads to unacceptance since a group needs a counterpart to define itself. And if you find something that is not what you are identified with you will find unacceptance, resistance and suffering. I did not see the entire clip. Science is a belief aswell. Many lifeforms has been killed in the name of science.

QFT! USA is the worlds biggest threat for survival. When the Christian Fascists get full power - we will get a nuclear war :-(

We have a problem then,do some religins actually ask u to kill ,like Jihad and stuff,but christianity dosn't ,it asks for peace,what can u say to that?

Vortex_ro: If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) ___________________________ Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT) ____________ The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT) And so it continues...

Religion is a matter of ignorance. It is for people who have no direction in life. No social or moral value that is just common sense. Religion is just a fear based theology passed on from generation to generation. During the time of the bible or Quran was written people believed in many Gods. Prophets were nothing more than evangilists of their day. People looked for guidance and direction. These were all written in text because that was the only method avaliable at the time. No computers or internet was avaliable. Science lacked its own evolution. If someone today were to write a book on a God and 2000 years from now it was discovered. What is the differance in Faith from the bible to the book written? None! We believe it is true because it so old. The bible says Adam and Eve were greated first. Than why do we have dinasour bones? Wouldn't man bones be more prevalent and found proven through carbon dating? The fact that dinasours exsisted is proof enough that God did not create man. What was th epurpose of dinasours in the first place than on the earth. And then to place man on it? Besides, religion has killed more people in this world than any other thing known to mankind. God is just a faith that out weighed the pegans.

for all the "science" and him being a "scientist" i find it humorus that he does not explain any scientific evolutionistic facts. The first thing that he believes, even before his own theory of evolution, is that there is no God. God exists! How else to you explain how simple protons and neutrons exist?

he does breifly explain simple evolution theories, like how walking up a soft mountain slope is an example of how we all slowly evolved into something else. Is that science? or just general statements? There are 2 types of evolution. 1 exists, one does not. Macro evolution: which involves us mutating our cells and genes and slowly evolving into different species, (a single cell, into a fish, into a crawling thing, then eventually a human) the second is Micro evolution: which simply involves changes within a species (two black dogs will produce another black dog, or one white dog and one black dog will produce a black and white dog) clearly evolution is a valid thing, but it is not the explanation of how our univers started. hope i made sense.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1760096128712631511&q make sure you at least check out 38 minutes 15 seconds.

This was an intellegent movie, i want to see more!

This movie did not say anything about evolution at all. It was just against religon.

Nilujz...how do you get that because of protons and neutrons there is a GOD? I have never heard of anything so crazy. Give me one spec of proof that GOD is real? I am a catholic and no priest can prove that GOD exsists. He is just a person of FAITH. What happened to Adam & Eve? Why is there no evidance of thier existence. Just what is written in the bible. God and any Religion is no more proven than the writings they portray. This guy just used proven facts that are black and white. Not something based on faith. If you believe in witchcraft, who says it don't exsist? Or even that UFO's are not real?

Danty...I dont think for second this video was against Religion. IT was just an informative video on proving that GOD is real. And religious people can not prove that he does exsist! The Ministor in the video was a fruitcake in my book. HE was a typical person who use's the word of GOD to make financial gains. A group of 15,000 parishoners is not a small group. Thats a small Army of crazy religious people. Heck, send me 10% of your income and I will show you GOD. Religious followers are just as dangerous as the Taliban. If you think that is a crazy statement look at your history. DO the Crusaders come to mind? How about the Pope during the 1400's? How about the Pope in general. The Popes killed more people in the world than any other ruler or evil group in the world. And this is in faith of a GOD who says, "THou shall not kill!" Give me a break! I just dont buy all the crap that is said to believe in. As a matter of fact, read about the Gospel of Thomas. It was omitted from the bible. WHY? If you dont know what the Gospel of Thomas is, look it up on the internet. The you tell me Jesus was a great man we all think he was. He was a person of vengance just like everyone else.

This was maybe the best document I have ever seen! I think everyone should watch this document and face the truth, there is no god, and there doesn't need to be one. Religios can be harmful, and the only benefit, a false hope can also lead to severe consequences (nice tradities are ok). You can find a lot better ethics reading to philossofer Immanuel Kant, than from ANY religion. I do not need to be threaten with Hell nor making empty promises of Heaven to make me ethical. I don't think there is a immortal soul. I belive that when we die, we return to the same stage of "not excistance" where we were, before we were born (except no reincarnation). So no fear of Hell, and no point to become a suicide bomber since there's no heaven. I live in Finland, and in here there are no problems conserning religions. Here true belivers are minority, often laughed upon. If someone would suggest banning abortion or prohibiting use of condom, he would be most likely ignored. If that someone would suggest banning the teaching of evolution, he would only make a good laugh. I argree 100% with Ryli in his comment. True root of evil is lack of judgement, undestanding and Unacceptance. Religions feed all these features (exept budishm, wich is ok if you take out the reincarnation). I became atheist by myself at the age of 7 years. I belived in God and other things I was taught at school. At the time I was angry of why some people don't belive in Jesus and God. Why couldn't they accept the truth and be able to go to heaven? As I pondered the subject I considered to try, just for a second, to belive myself that Jesus is NOT a son of God, and there is NO God. in that instant the puzzle was solved. All the little pieces fit in. Those people didn't belive in God, because there actually is no God. It took a while to accept the permanency of death, but I have accepted it. I plan to live a long happy and ethical life with no fear of dying or divine favors/punishment. -Pekka

here here!

or is it hear hear?

Isn't this a lovely civilized converstation, no one here would ever dream of using ad hominem. :P

Religous B.S.... you say you are catholic, yet you don't believe there is a God? that seems to contradict itself. If you do not believe in God. You are not catholic. Catholic in my opinion, isn't really even a religion. Its a government. Just answer me this. Evolution comes from the big bang? A huge mass exploded.... Where did that huge mass come from?

to clear one of the statements i said before; "evolution is a valid thing", but it is not the explanation of the beginning of time, or matter, or energy.

Creationism is only the shorter version of Evolution, and the bible/torah/koran/etc. are just symbolic versions of history. Nothing wrong with religion, the "evil" comes from bad interpretations and irrational thinking. To believe is good, but when it stops there it is dangerous. I don't think religion is the root of all evil, Close-mindedness = evil. I have never seen a Zen-bhuddist terrorist for example, he believes in certain things but doesn't close his mind for science/other religions/etc.

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin, literally "argument against the person") or attacking the messenger, involves replying to an argument or assertion by attacking the person presenting the argument or assertion rather than the argument itself. It is usually, though not always, a logical fallacy

Hopefully this isn't becoming a flame war, as so often happens with issues concerning religious believes. Has religion, in a larger scale, done somethink good to humanity? In mediaval times, abbeys preserved much of the knowledge of the Classical Era and made theories, for example, about medicine. Arcitecture? Arts? On the other hand, everyone knows the atrocities of the Spanish Inquisition and corruption among Catholic Church as an institution at that time. Religion is ok, as long as it doesn't involve crusades against the "hethens", "pagans" or just "those bastards who seem to have the wrong faith". Or as long as they don't force me to think in a certain way. Unfortunetly that seems to be case with our main religions even today in many occasions. Also politics and religion seem to walk side by side in many times, which isn't good at all. I think people should form their own view of how stuff works around them, rather than blindly believe any authority (be they religous or not). In my humble opinnion one should try to get one's hands on as many a different material as possible, regardless of them being religous, scientific or philosophical by nature. Think, absorb, form your own world view. Regards to Keisari_P, I can see a debate coming up in IRL! ;)

Well that was interesting indeed. Religeon is the root of all evil, I've been saying it for years, and this documentry of sorts, verifies my beliefs. I've been searching for a religeon to believe in for several years. All religeons have good beliefs, dont kill , dont steal, etc etc. However, it all boils down to who is right, cause no one is! The sad thing is that they kill each other in support of religeon. The problem here is that these "die hard" religeous people will "NEVER" change. Where the hell (oops, i mean heck) are we gonna be in 100 years? I'll tell you where, we are all gonna die of nuclear fallout. Allah, Buddha, God......yes......Bible, Koran, sit down and shut up for crying out loud.

WHen it comes down to it, everyone is accountable for themselves. Morality came from somewhere. Everyone will meet their maker.

antistani warhead who is attacking who?

nilujz, you should watch the end as well - where it is stated that even though modern sience does not have all the answers today that is no indication that religion does. All we know today from a purely empirical standpoint is that the universe exists. We do not know what created it and you could also argue that we do not know how. The Big Bang is the commonly accepted theory today - but remember that science is the application of models on our perception of reality. Also keep in mind that the scientific approach does not attempt to answer "why". Very different from religion. Also - all this show does is advocating an open mind. Yes - it has certain angles to it but in no way do I find him close-minded. In fact every single interview he held started completely open - with exception for the near-insult he threw at the pastor about nurnberg-rallies. :C) It's interesting to see both sides of the coin sometimes. Funny thing is - what really helps his point is the amount of comments (and contents of them) for this clip - especially yours. ;C) Good stuff.

Well.. it´s youst sad rly. It all comes down to fear (like always) fear of death and of not being able to explain something. And it will get mutch worse befor it gets any better. Dame i hate this planet.

who cares whether it's one way or another. what I want to know is why this guy has such a problem walking properly. does he constantly need a dump?

Reply to "Replay to Hjuling" We can have different opinions about the sources in history. It is alvays easy to defend own thougths and read historybooks that fit in your own ideas. But if we dont diskuss who was first with medicin, etc, there are lots of examples where Christianity have changed people, and also negative development in nations. REad for example the history of the Salvation army. Because I have the experienced both sides, bacamed a believer when I was grown up, my experience is that schoolbooks , for example, gives mostly the bad side of the history.

nilujz....I said I was catholic yes. But that is because I was baptized catholic. I had no choice in that matter. LIke most of us who were placed in that position by our parents. YOu are not ordained an atheaist or a person of non-belief. It is just something you grow into and learn on your own. SO you cant take away my Baptism in the catholic church. And yes I agree it is a goverment in its own right. Yet what religion isn't? They all have there own things that should be followed. Islam, buddist, christians all of them. I am no scientist for your question about the big bang theory. But that still does not prove there is a God based on the big bang theory. The big bang is a theroy not proof! IT is the creation of the Stars and planets. If there is a God then why is there no life anywhere else? DO you really think we are the only exsistance in the universe? I am not saying that the UFO's are real. But the universe is to vast to think we are it. We are always discovering new planets in our solar system. Whats on the other side of a black hole? Bottomline...I never said there wasnt a GOD! I just question his true exsistance. And no church or religion can prove of God's or Alliah's true exsistance. It is all about FAITH..If you believe than it is true. Just like witchcraft, vodoo or any other cult. If yo think it works than it does on its victims. So your question is more of the scientific relm than that of a true proof of a real GOD.

religous bs: your name says it all. religion is bs. religion isn't the definition of God, it is only man's flawed view. there are many gods out there according to man's view. I think it is up to every individual to find the truth. but, that doesn't mean any truth you find is the right one. for me i believe what is said in the Bible for historic reasons. all of the science, and geanology and geography in that book is so specific. granted it takes faith to believe a book that men wrote about God, but God gave us all the ability to communicate with him. dozens and dozens of diff authors wrote the book and still they are all consistant. how we relate the information to others is where the confusion comes in. But the things that the Bible says about creation is the best explanation that i've found. evolution takes more faith than creation. i myself have always been amazed by the things in space. the stars, black wholes, dark matter, etc! i do think the God is big enough to create all of space so we know how big he is and we can see his wonder. umm, this really sounded religious, just a man's view. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1760096128712631511&q , this video is pretty cool, waaaaayy looong though. Peace!

nilujz: I agree with what you say about the bible. But the bible is just a book that was copied from century to century. Something that was hand written not photocopied. But a photocopy is what it was. My problem is if there is a real GOD, then where did he/she come from? THe bible is just writings about Jesus and his preaching of God. These are just words that were passed down from person to person. No different than indian or any other nations history. The aboriginies are one for an example. They believe in the spirits and stars. Each of there stories have true meaning. We just believe what is in the bible because of its age. IT was a continuance of peoples beliefs and thoughts. TO be honest I have no idea where we all came from or how this planet was developed. We all wil find out one day when we die! I dont believe that if there is a real God he will be judgmental of you in your beliefs. We all have a fasination with God and death and the life after. I just wish that the world and people would get along with or without relgion. No one desreves to die because of there beliefs. It is just that relgion to me is for those people who need guidance in life. It brings there life a meaning. But that is okay to me if that is what you need. I only have a problem when it is judgmental of others. This video just draws so much controversy over its topic. With a title like the root of all evil. Mixed comments are sure to arise. Take care and your views are justified and accepted to me in good faith.

nilujz: I agree with what you say about the bible. But the bible is just a book that was copied from century to century. Something that was hand written not photocopied. But a photocopy is what it was. My problem is if there is a real GOD, then where did he/she come from? THe bible is just writings about Jesus and his preaching of God. These are just words that were passed down from person to person. No different than indian or any other nations history. The aboriginies are one for an example. They believe in the spirits and stars. Each of there stories have true meaning. We just believe what is in the bible because of its age. IT was a continuance of peoples beliefs and thoughts. TO be honest I have no idea where we all came from or how this planet was developed. We all wil find out one day when we die! I dont believe that if there is a real God he will be judgmental of you in your beliefs. We all have a fasination with God and death and the life after. I just wish that the world and people would get along with or without relgion. No one desreves to die because of there beliefs. It is just that relgion to me is for those people who need guidance in life. It brings there life a meaning. But that is okay to me if that is what you need. I only have a problem when it is judgmental of others. This video just draws so much controversy over its topic. With a title like the root of all evil. Mixed comments are sure to arise. Take care and your views are justified and accepted to me in good faith.

who made god ;

Wow, the world(and this comment section) are much sadder than I thought. This guy Dawkins seems very sad and lonely. When speaking to the Minister from Colorado, you could see hate in his face. Scientific, arrogant, hate. Dawkins, and many other athiests worship science. It could be called 'Scientism.' They believe man is God, the measure of all things, the end all be all of creation. Nazi Germany did alot of things in the name of science, like implanting shards of glass into the bodies of Jewish children to see how long they live. LOGICAL?? SCIENCE would see to it that any child born with less than a 50% chance of living a normal life should be killed. It's called Peduthanasia. Old people?? well they would of course be euthanised in the name of compassionate sciece. It's happining even today. Say your mother or wife has a car accident and the doctors deem her quality of life to be less than desireable... they just unplug her. ALL this CRAP in the documentary and from atheists that matter is pure and simple Bigotry, arrogance, and REDUCTION> SCIENCE reduces the universe down to stimulus-response. Love is just chemistry, death may be the logical end in certain cases, fetus' don't have rights, and puppies aren't cute. This is where Rome was headed right before they fell. Life is more than atoms and electrons colliding. There is always somethign METAPHYSICAL. Just our science can't detect it doesn't mean it isn't there. Science can't see my dreams. Science can't see my heart leap when my wife walks in the room. Do not let science reduce your life to numbers and measurements. It is a sad existence that not even Darwin approved of.(That's right, Darwin was a THEIST)

No one made God. He has always existed. He is the Alpha. The First Mover.

and he one day decided to create a place called earth, just for fun?

jgraham97: You are talking like a true believer. ANd that is just fine and great for you. Science is a black and white thought process. Dawkins was trying to illistrate how some people take GOD to an extreme. And it is people who make these choices to believe or not too. Your comment of no one created GOD, he has always exsisted is statement that is not proof. It is that of beliefs in God and his /her exsistance. And why do you say God is a HE? How do you know that? YEah I know the bible says so. But the bible is not always right. Are you following the new teastament or the old? Because most catholics or any other relgion that use God follow the new. And the new testement is a bunch of Bull crap that was written to make the origianl bible better. Read the old testement and see what the bible realy says about man. It is an awful thing. As a matter of fact read about the Gospel of Thomas that was omitted from the new testament. Read about how Jesus killed his play friend at teh age of 8. Read about how her made a man blind because he was ridiuling his fathers workmanship as a carpenter. Simply removed from the new testament to make him better than he really was. Yet this story is in everyother written religous text but the catholic one of the new testament. A persons belief is a choice and not something that should be judged because of what someone else thinks is right. Everything yo uhave said in your comment about the video can be considered Bigotry by my standards. You are no more right than I am on this subject. SO before you pass judgement on people and there beliefs, be right with yourself. That's what God says to do. So your comments show you are not a true believer in God and his scriptures. Have a nice day!! And I am not an atheist. I have my beliefs and I have my doubts. We all shall find the truth when we die. Until then, I shall question everything religious. Rememeber, religion was and is a sort of Goverment. And I shall not be governed by anyone. Nor should anyone else!!!!

why do people refuse to believe the Bible, and the message of Jesus? There is such a distane, dare i say even hate, when it comes to his teachings. I don't see why his message isn't taken with a grateful heart! "the greatest commandment is love" We know he existed. So either he was a mad man, a con man, or the Son of God. When you really study what he said in the bible, that eliminates the first two. He died to make us clean again, but we must accept Him and believe.

Vortex: The Quran is based on the bible. It is just an extention of the bible because the muslims believe that Mohammad was the second prophet to jesus. And that his teachings were the word of God. The newest writings of the Quran, I dont remember what they are called at the momment. Is just a bunch of crazy scriptures written by some extremists who has taken the original writting into there own rally of design. It is no different than the new testament. IT Was re-written for a reason. ANd the bible (old testament) does talk about killing man. Rememeber those who follow the bible have been killers in the name of God for centuries. The Popes of the past have been a governing ruler and almost evil ruling to its people. The pope placed many thousands of people to death. FOr various reasons and ideas to show its followers the rath of God. SO relgion is the root of all evil!!!! TRue followers of the bible are peaceful people not judgemental.

You are so right ... religion is the root of all evil, I have always thought so .. and I think this should have been 100% interesting ... Religion is just a way of controlling the masses .

religous bs, your statment that the bible talks about killing man is mis leading. it does give examples of how war is justified. but not just plain "killing man" the Catholic religion is not a good example of people who follow the bible. it is a majorly flawed and perversed religion. they believe that Mary is holy, that communion is actually the body and blood of Jesus, and that works get you into heavan and priests are the ones that forgive your sins. None of these are true. And yes the catholic religion has been very violent in the past, but this should not give a negative impression of the bible.

...don't let the catholic church and their falacies be the reason you believe religion is the root of all evil. Man is the one who created religion. therefore man is the root of evil.

nilujz: I agree man is the root of all evil. But I have to disgree with you on the fact that the bible does not talk about killing. You are refering to the new testament. I am refering to the orginial bible. The old testament is full of scripture that says alot of things in referance to killing man and others. I have done research on this and also have a friend who was at one time going to school to be a priest. HE left the monastary to get married. He is now a minister and I have talked with him about this and he is the one who gave me all this information. Plus what I have read for myself. JUst rememeber that the bible is a thing of interpetation. NOt all agree on what it says. THat is why people take it to the extreme. There is no true exact science when it comes to the bible. ANd I only used the catholic relgion as an example. The muslims, catholics or any other religion that follows the word of God has been killing in his/her name. The Quran says to kill just as the bible. I mean GOd told Abraham to kill his own son. SO that is just one example of GOD actually telling someone to kill. AND there is many more! I am more of an agnostic than an aetheist. I was raised to believe there is a God, but my heart and mind tell me different. Like I said before, we all shall find out when we die. I dont believe in hell, because I feel we are on hell right now and living it. There is no burning place of eternity. IT is just something devised to make us fear for God and live his faith. Religion has always beenn based on some sort of fear or end result if you fail. BUt I agree with some of what you have said. I feel that neither one of us are correct in what we have completely said. We are just going on with what we feel and know. Death is the only way to finding the truth.

heaps of ppl have written stuff.i understand where this man is coming from, ironically for a scientist he hasnt done a lot of research and is very bias, without a lot of perspective. why did he only talk to extremeists of religions, where is the moderation which the majoroti y of beleivers beleive in? I think he calls on the bible too much, and should look at it for what most people see it for, a morale code, the bible isnt the word of god himself but of human beings, storieswritten thousands of years ago. i think the history is really important, and the definition between religion and tradtion. something he doesnt really look at.the hatred and all that he found with islam comes not from the original text, but usually from the hadith which was/is manipulated by men in the society mostly to supress women ( notice how that guy went on about women) an interesting woman to look at he addresses this is Fatima mernissi. i think the issue is interesting but the fallacies and unfounded and unjustified conclusions he makes is what he ridecules.....

i think also, ppl are overlooking the good of relgion. imnot saying its without its issues, churches are usually the ones that stand up to issues of ethics and human morality. in australia churches are the largest group ( over the government) who run chairty organsiation, homes, food, clothing, councelling... there is a balance between good and evil. human nature has a large part to play. everythign is tainted but ppl even religion. its liek communisim, idealy its a beautiful thought, humanity makes it disgraceful

those who do believe in God have to ask themselves whether God speaks to man, or is he more of the agnostic style and keep to himself? I personally think the "conscience" is just how God talks to man. We all know the truth, some just choose to ingnore it.

Belief in religion will cause a reverse history

Outstanding been saying this for years. Put it this way if we got attacked by aliens tomorrow (not saying aliens exsist) then no matter what religion we would all fight together as humans and it would also kinda give all these great hand me downs (storys) the boot for good :). Now dont get me wrong religion can save a life a addict finds god (whatever one too many) and due to that belief stays clean then yes and maybe you could also say that if the person had god originally then they wouldnt be an addict fair points and good sides of religion but lets look at other side neibours hateing each other because they read a different book, ppl blowing inocent victims up (as well as there own religion at same time, wars that have been going on since before we knew the earth was round and lots more now if i could choose to have a world with religion or without i would have to say without. but anyway lots will disagree (there right) and lots will agree (their right ). still well put together very intersting ideas and good to see that the 2 ppl he interviewed where as bad as each other (felt sorry for the bloke at some stages).

nilujz: When was the last time God spoke to you really? I dont care what relgion you follow, most would consider you mentally ill if you answered it as if it was yesterday. God's response to your questions is just a matter of personnal mind subliminal thoughts. If you believe it happens it will. Most people would be institionalized for hearing voices in there head. Even if it was God talking to you. You cant deny this fact. You would not tell someone who is not a believer in God at your church or congrigation. The average joe would look at you like you were nuts, not one of relgious intervention in the word of God. But I do respect your input. I think you really need to have people of both sides on the fence about relgion. It keeps things true and on a straight path in there beliefs. If we were to just totally except it as truth, the world would be in trouble.

religous bs, you mis-understood me. I did not mean that God speaks audibly and i hear his voice. That has never happened to me, no i'm not crazy. i'm not hearing voices in my head, so don't call the crazy bus. What i meant is: i think God has naturally created man with the ability to decipher right and wrong. Conscience not subliminal.

another note: just becuase one religion is bad, you cannot make the assumption that all religion is bad. If you tasted a brand of coffe that gives you gas, you cannot assume all brands of coffe give you gas. However, i do think most religion is bad, and there is only one truth.

Evolution is absolutely trash. Therefore this video is wrong.

nilujz: LOL no problem. I agree not all relgion is bad. But is always funny how you see most of the problems being by televised catholic or christian, muslim relgions. I have never seen a protostant or other type of relgion negatively broadcasted. UNless we get into the jewish, palastine issue. BUt that is a different story all together. Like I said your opinion is greatly appreciated. I believe that total acception into ones story is not good. Morals are just that. Human feelings that have no relgious persuation what so ever. It is just knowing right from wrong as a human natue.

goodshorts: beings closed minded is trash. How can you say evolution is trash?? Skulls and bones do prove something other than a man and woman planted on this earth. And if you really think about it. If Adam and Eve really exsisted all offspring (man & woman today)was the end result of sin. It is called incest! NO one can be created from the same father and mother. That is absolute trash if I ever heard it!

Interesting debate...and interesting how panicked people of religion get when something logical is said. If people wwould only just "treat one another as they would want to be treated themselves", the world would not need religion. I believe we can be moral without religion. I have two grown sons who turned out just fine, and I did not have them baptized, never took them to a church, but they know the difference between right and wrong, all killing is bad, and that power and greed are "evil". Let us all become humansits, if we even have to put a label to ourselves, and let's just practice some compasssion. If there is a God, he would surely approve, don't you think? and the world would truly be a better place. Amen. :-)

Poor, poor goodshorts. Life must be truly hard when one wears blinkers.

Poor, poor goodshorts. Life must be truly hard when one wears blinkers.

Willow: That pretty much sums it all up. You do not need relgion to know right from wrong. To treat each other with respect is all you need. Not relgion!! Relgion is for those people like Goodshorts who have no other understanding of life other than what they are told. NO personnal view and ideas. Basically I am saying puppet people. People on the string of life being controlled by someone else's ideas and views.

i make my own decisions. for you to say i don't treat people with respect, and to call me a "puppet person" and to think i'm controlled by someone else, is pretty stupid considering you don't know me. and i'm not blind. evolution is just a all around stupid theory. evolution was created back in the 1800s. talk about out dated. Willow, don't feal sorry for me. I have thought through evolution, and for me to put it simple... it is absolute trash.

here is a video you might find interesting http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1410330225420430733&q let me know if anybody watches it

ROFLMAO!!! Goodshorts, if evolution is outdated because it was "created" in the 1800's, what does tell you about pretty much any major religion nowadays?

ppl thought that the earth was created in seven days as ratonal as today we believe evolution is rational.. what next. u cant stake everything on one idea... everything evolves, even idea..

WATCH THE VIDEO

Plus the bible was written by people who thought the world was FLAT. Goodshorts: I dont understand how a person like yourself who says they are not controlled to say otherwise. I dont know you but I do know people who think like yourself. So as they say birds of a feather tend to flock together. And for evolution to have been created in the 1800's is true to a point. Relgion is much older, so what are you really saying with that statement? Another words, life dont start with sperm and an egg from its mother? DNA testing is not true? THe skulls and bones of archilogical discoveries are not real? Everything in science has to be taken with an open mind. TO just close it and keep a vision of narrowness is crazy. Being stuck in a paridigm is cruel to ones thought process. Just to think that animals, mamals, birds and every other living creature did not evolve from evolution is just NUTS!!!! I suppose your one of those new church going people that go to different funerals of dead soilders and say they deserved to die and it was good thing they died? Those people should be SHOT on SITE! Relgion......THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL...truth for those who dont know the true meaning to life. HELL...there is no HELL! We are living it and are on it right now. Paying for all our so-called SINS.

religous bs, do you even know what you are talking about. the bible said the world was a sphere when everyone was insisting it was flat. alot of what you say is BS. like in your name

No one is going to change their mind because of what anyone says here.

22It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: people who say the bible teaches a flat earth by the statments "I saw, and behold, a tree in the midst of the earth" are taking the statments out of context. also "four corners of the earth" in the Bible does not mean the earth is flat. It means North South East and West. But people just want to disproove the Bible, so they choose to belive what they want.

sorry here is the verse with the reference. Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Obvious - the human is the actually the evil one. It carries out its evil deeds, and it is doing so in the name of religion, sience, money or whith whatever it finds an excuse to do it.

hello?: learn your histiory before you start to quote the BIBLE. During the times of the writings the world was considered flat by the people who lived during that time. The words you quoted dont mean a thing for those of the time. The world was not considered round until some 1000 years later in history. And land did not exsist outside of Egypt and the surrounding areas by the people who lived during that time. Learn and understand the writings from that time outside of the bible. People thought the world was flat. So dont quote the bible and its scriptures. Its like saying Adam & Eve existed. HOw can you prove they exsisted if they were the only two people on earth and who was there to witness them and to write about them? ANd man is eveil but so is relgion. THE popes of the early century were considered GOD. They killed more people than Suddam Husien did. THey killed people for being witches, non believers in God and so on. ANd it was from relgion not man!! MAN only acted out the result. SO my statement about the bible teaching the world was flat is your comment about it being out of context. Because I never said the bible taught that. I just made the statement that peple of its time believed that. But your opinion is recieved in a positive note. IT is appreciated. I am not trying to disprove the bible at all. Nor should it ever be disproved. It should just be taken with a grain of salt as they say.

I love controversy....!!! I think that everyone who believes in Relgion should send me 10% of there income and I will pray for them. Give them guidance and direction. After all the bible does say to give 10% of your income to the church. I may become an avangelist and be tax free! THen I will get to screw all the woman in my congrigation and even have sex with the alter boyz if I please. Sick puppy I know!!! LIke I said I love controversy!!!!

don't use catholic religion as an example, it is just a perversion of the truth. btw scientists are the one who thought the world was flat, they also now believe the world exploded out of nothing.

For many years now I have been watching the climate of the world in reguards to how we interact with each other. I have travelled extensively only to see one group strike out against another group. Amazingly these groups that have created the most damage int eh world are the christian groups. My observations here in the USA ae an agry group of people that alllow themselves permission to attack someone for differences of skin and eye and hair color. And currnetly in the USA religious groups with a religous backed fnatic in the white house are currently targeting homosexuals. Already because of this more and more violence against gays is taking place. In Iraq currently american soldiers are working with Iraqy groups to arrest and even kill gay people. My concern is if we allow christians and any other groupd to hurt or mame anyone person for differences, it soon will be on my door step for being a non believer ....STAY IN YOUR TEMPLE AND LEAVE THE WORLD ALONE.

ever heard of "thou shalt not kill" if you call these people christians, they obviously aren't good ones

Being severed from your old culture, not religious fanaticism is the most common similarity between suicide bombers.

concerned, i really think your off base when you just close your eyes point and blame christians to the world's problems.

they may be part of it, but there is a bigger picture

hello?: I would like to know what scientists from the early century declared the world flat? THe people of the world thought that because when they looked out at the sea they saw a flat horizon. Or is that beyond your level of understanding? People back than were simple and only a few nations were above the rest. And the world exploding is a throey not a fact. People are always stuck in the fact of what they feel is true and false. Most are not open to objection. That is the true problem of the world today. We need to have an open mind. Who really cares what is black and white. We should all be our brothers keeper as they say. Having your own view and idea is what is great about having a brain to think. It is not your posistion to tell anyone who is right or wrong. Thats what everyone here has to understand. Live your own life and not others. But catholics are the root of all eveil to me. They have been an upper religous federation of mad men since the begining of time. The bible is nothing more than a story of a man who taught a way of life to people. ANd then it was written down by people of there own views and ideas based on those teachings. Then they were copied for centuries. Losing interpitation along the way and facts. Plus they were written in so many languages that it is hard to decipher all into facts. Languages lost and fogotten.

the 100th comment! YESSSSS

the bible is translated directy from greek and hebrew directly into the language that is interpretating it. aside from culture differences i don't think there is much loss of facts. languages lost and forgotten? what are you talking about?

Oha: Look into the actual history writings of the bible. The bible was not originaly written if Hebrew and greek. It was written in languages before they became known. As a matter of fact, if you get such channels as the History channel. They have done a series on the Bible. It was about 8 hours long and full of information. IN the days of Mesophtamia or how ever you spell it greek and hebrew were not even known in that part of the world. They were translated into those languages later. Plus I have a relative who is a priest and a personal friend who is a ministor and they say it wasnt originally in greek or hebrew. They used such languages as Arcoptaliptic, a language that has been forgotten for centuries. I suppest you look into the library of congress of ask your local priest your own question. Because alot of information in the bible has also been omitted into the new testament. Look for the Gospel of Thomas or ask your priest about it. It was omitted from the bible but not any other written version such as the Quran or any other book. Just the bible! So I am sorry to inform you that things have been lost based on the catholic or bible translations. SO what are you talking about I have to ask??????

It would be very smart of "God" to send his "son" to this planet "again" during these times now that we have television, internet, etc. It would be far more credible ;)

oh come on. if gods son came today, who would really believe him. even if he turned water into wine ppl would be sceptics still, go to vegas n u can se a train disappear. i cant remember who said it but.. when u talk to god ur praying but when god talks to u, u have schitzophrenia

also.. how would television and internet make it credible..u can make anything happen on tv, special effects ect.. if anything tv would make it less credible. its the sillyest thing ive heard

You're kidding, right? First of all I didn't say that it would be 100% credible, I said it would be far MORE credible. Of course there will always be skeptics, since deep down we all believe ONLY what we WANT to believe. My point is that now we can communicate and interact with pretty much any other human on this planet. We have access to showing any live events to anyone on the planet and even to record them. Back then half of the world's population wasn't aware that the other half even existed! There really is no absolute proof that everything the bible says is 100% true, you just have to BLINDLY believe it if you choose to follow it. I'm not saying it never happened because I can't prove it, but you can't prove it really did happen either. About miracles, nowadays we have what would be much more reliable scientifical means of proving magical tricks from real miracles. And what if 100 years from his "second" coming people started to be skeptical again? Well, "God" could just send him again and again couldn't he? He can do ANYTHING, right? If he really loves us and wants us to follow him that way, he would do it without hesitation, no?? I really am against religion because it's corrupted, and their "leaders" use advantage of their followers' fear and naivity to control them and implant more fear in their minds. Who needs religion if you truly treat EVERYONE the way you want to be treated? I know I probably sound like a hardcore atheist to you, but as a matter of fact I DO believe in God, not just in the one most of you out there believe in (I believe in Jesus too, but I also believe in other spiritual models like Buddah, etc). I find it EXTREMELY ironic that such a loving and merciful God would create some creatures in a world, and put them to the test to see if they really are "worthy" of him by giving them a bunch of "rules" that if they even THINK about breaking he would send them to a place where they would suffer for the rest of eternity. To me God is a higher SHARED consciousness, meaning that we are all part of that consciousness. Have you heard how God created us to his own image? Does that mean God actually looks human like us? I don't think so, to me that tells me that God actually creates by EXPANDING himself, we are, as a whole, God itself. We are NOTHING individually, and that's why we are so screwed up. We think we are separate beings and that creates FEAR and makes us want to defend ouselves from ourselves without realizing it. To me we are in an illusionary state of really low consciousness where we will remain until we realize otherwise. All the things we blame God for (war, disease, economy, etc) are things we bring to ourselves due to GUILT. God doesn't punish, WE do. It's been our choice to prive ourselves from our own divinity and that's where the fear and guilt come from. But that means that how long we suffer by closing our eyes and denying ourselves is also our choice, since we can end it if we really want to. I could go on and on but if anyone really cares about this I would HIGHLY recommend you to read a wonderful book called "A Course In Miracles". The terminology it uses is based on the Christian Religion, but it doesn't matter what religion you believe in, it makes perfect sense and makes you rethink a lot of things. Peace.

sdrawkcab: I like what you said here. I also believe in God but just not the way everyone else does. THe only problem with what you are saying is for Jesus to come again is what the bible calls the story of Revelation. Or the end of the world with the 3 horse men. So I dont know what to say about that. I will look into getting that book out of the library you mentioned. Nice view!!

Thank you ;) I'm sure you'll love the book. I'm going to elaborate on what I meant with God sending his Son again to save us. This is what I believe: Jesus was not "THE" God's Son, nor was he any more special than any of us. He did come to give us hope and show us that there's much more to life than what we thought, a wake up call you may say, but he never encouraged us to worship him. As a matter of fact, I strongly believe that he would be against any kind of worshiping, as it diminishes yourself and implies that you are indeed powerless and your existance and happiness depends on somebody else. I believe that Jesus was aware of his connection with God, and even though he could've just enjoyed his eternal life in "Paradise", he chose to come to guide us so that we can be like him, with him, aware of how we all are one. Now, assuming that Jesus, the VERY same person who came long ago, came back again, to me it would mean that we are indeed hopeless because that would be the proof that individuality really is God's creation. Why hopeless, you ask? If individuality does exist, then that means that we are indeed alone, no matter how many people are around us, we are still alone, we are still one separate ego apart from everybody else. Even if we went to Heaven after struggling in our lives following God's "rules", we would still be in great danger of falling again, because even in Heaven we could have a "bad" thought, or a "bad" feeling and BAM! God frowns upon you and condemns you. Do you have any idea how enormously hard, or rather IMPOSSIBLE it would be to keep on thinking and feeling love for all ETERNITY and at the same time fearing you'd make God mad with a single thought? My point is that Jesus doesn't have an ego anymore, he's not an individual who can come back and forth from Paradise. I do belive that ANYONE can reach that point when you feel the absolute love that connects you to God and all the creation, and therefore in the state of mind that Jesus was. Don't you think it's weird that we don't remember who we are or where we come from once we're born in this world? If we DID remember we would be like "WTF?? Why am I even here? This is NOT where I want to be", and so we would immediately turn back to Paradise. We blocked our memory of who we really are in order to be able to even think that we can exist in this universe we created. We turned our backs on our own divinity, our own identity, but it doesn't mean we are not divine anymore. Our divinity is forever protected because anything that truly comes from God can never cease to exist, it only means that we have to accept it once more and leave behind our petty illusions. God only creates love, so anything that is not love must not come from God and therefore must not exist. "Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists". Religion should be our personal spiritual journey to God, to our true identity, not a set of rules imposed on us. There is not an absolute path to reach God. There is an infinite number of ways to reach Him, you just got to find the one that feels right for you as long as it doesn't affect you or anybody else in a negative way, otherwise it will be like taking a step backwards. There are many other ways in which the same thing can be explained, even from a more "scientifical" point of view: As many of you are aware we are energy, everything is energy, our thoughts are energy, our feelings are energy, our bodies are energy, etc. It is now widely accepted the buddhist concept of the body's energy field and the chakras that process and control the flow of such energy from and to certain key locations in our bodies. There even are instuments especially created to photograph and measure this energy. The more we're aware of this energy and the better we perceive it and control it, our minds vibrate and resonate to higher and finer energies where we can see and go into higher dimensions of conciousness and existance. It is said that in the fourth dimension we still loosely keep our minds inside "containers" or "bodies" but the higher you go, the least the need for such containers is (since the feeling of having to defend ourselves diminishes greatly), and the stronger we feel our relationship with God. This is even a path that many people take, such as Himalayan munks, by meditating and vibrating to higher frequencies of energy to eventually trascend these dimensions. The more you are attached to the material world, the harder it will be to get closer to God because you'll be reaffirming to yourself that this is where you want to be. This is why real Buddhists, for example, try to dwell on the material at the extreme minimum possible, which is good, but not essential, it's just another path. Something that we really have to keep in mind, is that there's a universal law that says that energies with the same purpose will attract and strengthen each other. If you have negative feelings and thoughts, you WILL attract negative influences into your life, which will keep you away from God. That's why is so important to control our negative emotions and to radiate positive thoughts and feelings to everything to get the same back. When Jesus said to treat others the way you want to be treated he wasn't BSing, it wasn't a metaphore, it's the plain truth. See yourself in the eyes of every single person, as you are all part of the same creation, you are one. The way you treat them is the way you're treating yourself... Whoa, ok I wrote way too much, I hope it doesn't discourage anyone to read it, hehe. Trying to do my part ;)

i dont really like the institutionalised religion. ppl today practice their faith in different ways, express themselves differently. its called new age relgion. i think thats what some ppl are talking about. as humans we mostly like things and respond to things that we can associate with. the bible makes this fairly hard.. no we ( well i) dont live in a desert, the world has changed. however u still have some sort of faith like u said treat ppl the way u want to b treated, one of the beatitudes i think. the essence of the bible, things like the beatitudes are still true for today, u can still relate to the morals of them. i have faith in that not in insitutionalised religion, because humans are flawed, and nothing that we can do can be perfect, things all ways change like how Martin Luther challenged the idea that the pope was god on earth... religion is a slow responder to the masses. also the whole why wouldnt he just send jesus again .. its called faith, u have it or u dont

We all should start a Blog on this subject. It is finally starting to get interesting. Good views and thoughts. Not just B.S. replies to this video. Great writing sdrawkcab!!

Why did Google 'censor' this video? Who now "OWNS" Google?

sdrawkcab wrote "Something that we really have to keep in mind, is that there's a universal law that says that energies with the same purpose will attract and strengthen each other" only opposite polarities attract eachother. after reading everyones comments on this post, it is evident that people will only believe in what they want to believe. All of you are writing from mere conjecture and philosophy. your going nowhere but deeper into your own imaginations.

Jesus is Lord!

if theres a individaulitstic god hes probably laughing his ass off at all these religios moranic peoples right now.

movie don't work :/

Isn't it ironic how everybody is expressing they're beliefs while shouting others down about doing the same thing? Lol. "It's my opinion that I despise all opinions". That makes perfect, logical sense.

The first thing one must accept is that others will often have opinions that differ from their own.Thats a human right!The next thing one must do is put themselves in the others shoes for the moment and see from their point if view.This takes an open mind and the only way to do this is to leave ego out of it!I know many out there are going,"yea yea,tell us something we don't know!" Well,no matter what I say someone has already said it and others have shot it down.Doesn't it seem a little like a dog chasing his own tale?Thats how I view most discussion forums that really don't accomplish much,unless they allow you to seperate ones ego for the moment and just read the comments and learn!

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